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Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down

Leggi in Italiano

Entitled “Jolly Roving Tar” but more frequently “Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down” here is a forebitter song that ironizes on the idle occupations of a sailor when he is ashore.
For my money’s gone,” says the sailor who is well liked and fondled by the ladies when his pockets are full, but immediately put aside for another sailor when the money ends!

A similar song (we do not know if original or a traditional version rewriting) was written in New York in 1885 by Ed Harrigan & David Braham for the music hall entitled ‘Old Lavender‘ (text and score here); a version published by John and Alan Lomax in “American Ballads & Folk Songs” was attributed to John Thomas, a Welsh sailor who was on “the Philadelphian” in 1896. (text here), but the main source of the best known variant comes from “Grammy” Fish .

“GRAMMY” FISH

Mrs. Lena Bourne Fish (1873-1945) spent the first 24 years of her life in Black Brook, NY, not far from the Canadian border. Lena’s main source of songs was her own family, the Bourne; his ancestors were the first settlers of Cape Cod and a lot of songs (with many English and Irish traditional tunes) had passed to the family generations since emigration . As a lumber trader, her father  collected many songs from the people he met in the New England woods in his travels.
Once married, Lena moved to Jaffrey, New Hampshire. Two collectors of traditional songs (Helen Harkness Flanders and Marguerite Olney) interviewed her in 1940 and recorded about 175 songs; the following year Anne and Frank Warner collected a hundred songs in four recording sessions half of which completly new ones.
“Grammy” Fish had taken her role as a witness of the past to heart so as to transcribe the “old songs” in many notebooks to leave them to the new generations.

Assassin’s Creed Rogue, Sea Shanty Edition

Bootstrappers live

I
Ships may come and ships may go
as long as the seas do roll
But a sailor lad just like his dad
he loves the flowing bowl
a woman ashore he does adore
a girl who’s plump and round
when your money’s all gone,
it’s the same old song
“Get up, Jack! John, sit down!”
CHORUS
Come along, come along,
me jolly brave boys,
There’s plenty more grog(1) in the jar
We’ll plough the briny ocean line
like a jolly roving tar
II
When Jack’s ashore, he’ll make his way
To some old boarding house(2)
He’s welcomed in with rum and gin,
likewise with pork and scouse
He’ll spend and spend and never offend
Till he lies drunk on the ground
When his money’s all gone…
III
Then Jack will slip(3) on board
some ship bound for India or Japan
and in Asia there, the ladies fair
all love a sailor man
He’ll go ashore and he’ll not scorn
to buy some girl her gown
when his money’s all gone…
IV
When Jack is worn and weatherbeat
too old to cruise about
they’ll let him stop in some rum shop
Till eight bells(4) calls him out
Then he’ll raise hands high
and loud he’ll cry “Thank Christ, I’m homeward bound!”
when his money’s all gone…

NOTES
1) grog= drink
2) Boarding houses are pensions for sailors, present in every large sea port. “They are held by boarding masters, of dubious reputation, which the sailors define as” recruiters “, who provide” indifferently lodging and boarding “. They often welcome sailors “on credit”. On the advance received by boarders at the time of enrollment, they recover for food and accommodation, and with the rest they provide them with poor quality clothing and equipment “. (Italo Ottonello)
3)  or “He then will sail aboard some ship
4)”When it’s the end” his watch on board is finished as well as his life. On the old vessels the ringing sound of a bell regulated the time, every 4-hour guard duty was signaled by 8 bell strokes. (the eight bells were ringed at 4, at 8, at 12, at 16, at 20 and at midnight). An hourglass was used to calculate the time.

Great Big Sea from Play 1997. Traditional American Folk Songs from the Anne & Frank Warner Collection, #71.

I
Ships may come and ships may go
As long as the sea does roll.
Each sailor lad just like his dad,
He loves the flowing bowl.
A trip on shore he does adore
With a girl who’s nice and round.
When the money’s gone
It’s the same old song,
“Get up Jack! John, sit down!
[Chorus]
Come along, come along,
You jolly brave boys,
There’s lots of grog(1) in the jar.
We’ll plough the briny ocean
With the jolly roving tar.
II
When Jack comes in, it’s then he’ll steer
To some old boarding house(2).
They’ll welcome him with rum and gin,
And feed him on pork scouse.
He’ll lend, spend and he’ll not offend (3) Till he’s lyin’ drunk on the ground
When the money’s gone
It’s the same old song,
“Get up Jack! John, sit down!
III
Jack, he then, oh then he’ll sail
Bound down for Newfoundland.
All the ladies fair in Placentia(4) there
They love that sailor man
He’ll go to shore out on a tear
And he’ll buy some girl a gown.
When the money’s gone
It’s the same old song,
“Get up Jack! John, sit down!
IV
When Jack gets old and weather beat,
Too old to roam about,
They’ll let him stop in some rum shop
Till eight bells(5) calls him out.
Then he’ll raise his eyes up to the skies,
Sayin’ “Boys, we’re homeward bound.”
When the money’s gone
It’s the same old song,
“Get up Jack! John, sit down!

NOTES
3) meaning that he will not offend the innkeeper with a refusal
4) Placentia is a small Canadian city formed by the union of the villages of Jerseyside, Townside, Freshwater, Dunville and Argentia .
5)”When it’s the end” his watch on board is finished as well as his life. On the old vessels the ringing sound of a bell regulated the time, every 4-hour guard duty was signaled by 8 bell strokes.

ENGLISH VERSION

In the nineteenth century there was a completely different version in which poor Susan was distraught because the fine William was still far from the sea, she decided to follow him as a sailor. The version is still popular in Newfoundland. As much as I searched the web at the moment I did not find a video to listen to.
It was in the town of Liverpool, all in the month of May,
I overheard a damsel, alone as she did stray,
She did appear like Venus or some sweet, lovely star,
As she walked toward the beach, lamenting for her jolly, roving Tar.

Jolly Roving Tar by “Irish Rovers”

The text was written by George Millar the founder of the “Irish Rovers” and although a different song borrows some phrases from “Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down” other equally famous sea songs on sailors.
The Irish Rover from Another Round 2005: various dances taken from fantasy films and animations

I
Well here we are, we’re back again
Safe upon the shore
In Belfast town we’d like to stay
And go to sea no more
We’ll go into a public house
And drink till we’re content
For the lassies they will love us
Till our money is all spent
CORO
So pass the flowin’ bowl
Boys there’s whiskey in the jar
And we’ll drink to all the lassies
And the jolly roving tar
II
Oh Johnny did you miss me
When the nights were long and cold
Or did you find another love
In your arms to hold
Says he I thought of only you
While on the sea afar
So come up the stairs and cuddle
With your jolly roving tar
III
Well in each other’s arms they rolled
Till the break of day
When the sailor rose
and said farewell
I must be on me way
Ah don’t you leave me Johnny lad
I thought you’d marry my
Says he I can’t be married
For I’m married to the sea
IV
Well come all you bonnie lasses
And a warning take by me
And never trust an Irishman
An inch above your knee
He’ll tease you and he’ll squeeze you
And when he’s had his fun
He’ll leave you in the morning
With a daughter or a son

LINK
http://www.shanty.org.uk/archive_songs/jolly-roving-tar.html
http://www.jsward.com/shanty/JollyRovinTar/lomax.html
http://www.wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/07/jolly.htm
http://www.goldenhindmusic.com/lyrics/GETUPJAC.html
http://www.wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/08/getup.htm
http://levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/catalog/levy:072.028
http://thejovialcrew.com/?page_id=338
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=96587
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=96582
http://adirondackmusic.org/subpages/69/9/6/lena-bourne-fish

“Get up, Jack! John, sit down!” about a jolly roving tar

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Intitolata “Jolly Roving Tar” ma più frequentemente “Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down” ecco una forebitter song che ironizza sulle oziose occupazioni di un marinaio quando si trova sulla terra ferma.
For my money’s gone, ‘tis the same old song” dice il marinaio che è benvoluto e vezzeggiato dalle donnine quando ha le tasche piene, ma messo subito da parte per far posto ad un altro ancora in grana, quando i soldi finiscono!!

Una canzone simile (non sappiamo se originale oppure riscrittura di una versione tradizionale)  è stata scritta a New York nel 1885 da Ed Harrigan & David Braham per il music hall dal titolo ‘Old Lavender’ (testo e spartito qui); una versione pubblicata da John and Alan Lomax in “American Ballads & Folk Songs” è stata attribuita a John Thomas un marinaio gallese imbarcato sul Philadelphian nel 1896. (testo qui), ma la fonte principale della variante più conosciuta  proviene da “Grammy” Fish.

“GRAMMY” FISH

La signora Lena Bourne Fish (1873-1945) visse da ragazza a Black Brook, NY, poco lontano dal confine canadese. La principale fonte delle sue canzoni era ovviamente la sua famiglia, i Bourne con il padre e lo zio in testa; i suoi antenati furono i primi coloni di Capo Cod e i canti erano passati alle varie generazioni della famiglia dai tempi dell’emigrazione con molti brani della tradizione inglese e irlandese. Il padre inoltre in qualità di commerciante di legname viaggiava molto e imparò (trasmettendole alla figlia) ulteriori canzoni nei boschi del New England.
Una volta sposata Lena si trasferì a Jaffrey, New Hampshire. Due collezionisti delle canzoni tradizionali la intervistarono nel 1940 e registrarono circa 175 canzoni (Helen Harkness Flanders e Marguerite Olney), l’anno successivo Anne e Frank Warner raccolsero un centinaio di canzoni in quattro sessioni di registrazione la metà delle quali non raccolte nell’anno precedente.
La signora aveva a preso così a cuore il suo ruolo di testimone del passato da trascrivere su numerosi quaderni le “vecchie canzoni” proprio per lasciarle in eredità alle nuove generazioni.

Assassin’s Creed Rogue, Sea Shanty Edition

Bootstrappers live


I
Ships may come and ships may go
as long as the seas do roll
But a sailor lad just like his dad
he loves the flowing bowl
a woman ashore he does adore
a girl who’s plump and round
when your money’s all gone,
it’s the same old song
“Get up, Jack! John, sit down!”
CHORUS
Come along, come along,
me jolly brave boys,
There’s plenty more grog(1) in the jar
We’ll plough the briny ocean line
like a jolly roving tar
II
When Jack’s ashore, he’ll make his way
To some old boarding house(2)
He’s welcomed in with rum and gin,
likewise with pork and scouse
He’ll spend and spend and never offend
Till he lies drunk on the ground
When his money’s all gone…
III
Then Jack will slip(3) on board
some ship bound for India or Japan
and in Asia there, the ladies fair
all love a sailor man
He’ll go ashore and he’ll not scorn
to buy some girl her gown
when his money’s all gone…
IV
When Jack is worn and weatherbeat
too old to cruise about
they’ll let him stop in some rum shop
Till eight bells(4) calls him out
Then he’ll raise hands high
and loud he’ll cry “Thank Christ, I’m homeward bound!”
when his money’s all gone…
traduzione italiano Cattia Salto
I
Le navi vanno e vengono
e navigano in lungo e in largo il mare
ma un giovane marinaio proprio come suo padre ama la boccia piena
e una donna a terra adora
una ragazza che sia graziosa e rotondetta, e quando i soldi sono andati è sempre la stessa vecchia storia
“Alzati Jack! John siediti”
Venite avanti
allegri e bravi ragazzi
c’è tanto grog(1) nella bottiglia
solcheremo l’oceano salmastro
come un allegro marinaio vagabondo
II
Quando Jack sbarca si dirigerà
verso una qualche vecchia pensione d’imbarco(2)
dove gli danno il benvenuto con rum e gin
e lo riempiranno con stufato di maiale.
Spenderà e spenderà e mai smetterà
finchè finirà ubriaco steso a terra
quando i soldi sono andati..
III
Jack allora dormirà(3) a bordo
di qualche nave con destinazione India o Giappone e in Asia là, le belle signore
tutte amano un marinaio
Andrà a riva e non disprezzerà
di comprare ad una ragazza un vestito
quando i soldi sono andati…
IV
Quando Jack diventa vecchio e stanco
troppo vecchio per andare in giro
si fermerà in qualche negozio di rum
finchè l’ottavo rintocco (4) lo chiamerà
Allora solleverà gli occhi al cielo
e forte griderò “Grazie Cristo, sono in rotta verso casa”
quando i soldi sono andati…

NOTE
1) qui il termine è da intendersi nel senso generico di liquore e non più propriamente della bevanda mescolata con acqua servita sulle navi ai marinai
2) Le “boarding houses” sono pensioni per marinai, presenti in ogni grande porto di mare. “Sono tenute da procuratori d’imbarco (boarding masters), di dubbia reputazione, che i marinai definiscono «arruolatori», i quali forniscono «indifferentemente alloggio e imbarco». Spesso accolgono i marinai «a credito». Sull’anticipo ricevuto dai pensionanti all’atto dell’arruolamento, si rifanno del vitto e dell’alloggio, e con il resto forniscono loro abbigliamento e attrezzature di scarsa qualità“. (Italo Ottonello)
3)  oppure He then will sail aboard some ship
4) l’espressione è squisitamente nautica sta per “quando arriverà il momento”,  è finito il suo turno di guardia a bordo come pure la sua vita (vedi nota 5)

Great Big Sea in Play 1997. Traditional American Folk Songs from the Anne & Frank Warner Collection, #71.


I
Ships may come and ships may go
As long as the sea does roll.
Each sailor lad just like his dad,
He loves the flowing bowl.
A trip on shore he does adore
With a girl who’s nice and round.
When the money’s gone
It’s the same old song,
“Get up Jack! John, sit down!
[Chorus]
Come along, come along,
You jolly brave boys,
There’s lots of grog(1) in the jar.
We’ll plough the briny ocean
With the jolly roving tar.
II
When Jack comes in, it’s then he’ll steer
To some old boarding house(2).
They’ll welcome him with rum and gin,
And feed him on pork scouse.
He’ll lend, spend and he’ll not offend (3) Till he’s lyin’ drunk on the ground
When the money’s gone
It’s the same old song,
“Get up Jack! John, sit down!
III
Jack, he then, oh then he’ll sail
Bound down for Newfoundland.
All the ladies fair in Placentia(4) there
They love that sailor man
He’ll go to shore out on a tear
And he’ll buy some girl a gown.
When the money’s gone
It’s the same old song,
“Get up Jack! John, sit down!
IV
When Jack gets old and weather beat,
Too old to roam about,
They’ll let him stop in some rum shop
Till eight bells(5) calls him out.
Then he’ll raise his eyes up to the skies,
Sayin’ “Boys, we’re homeward bound.”
When the money’s gone
It’s the same old song,
“Get up Jack! John, sit down!
traduzione italiano Cattia Salto
I
Le navi vanno e vengono e navigano in lungo e in largo il mare,
ogni giovane marinaio proprio come suo padre, ama la boccia piena.
Un giro a terra adora fare
con una ragazza che sia graziosa e rotondetta,
ma quando i soldi sono andati
è sempre la stessa vecchia storia
“Alzati Jack! John siediti”
Venite avanti
allegri e bravi ragazzi
c’è tanto grog nella bottiglia
solcheremo l’oceano salmastro
con l’allegro marinaio vagabondo
II
Quando Jack arriva, allora si fionderà verso una vecchia pensione d’imbarco(2)
dove lo accoglieranno con rum e gin
e lo riempiranno con stufato di maiale
Presterà, spenderà e non rifiuterà (3)
finchè finirà ubriaco steso a terra
quando i soldi sono andati
è sempre la stessa storia
“Alzati Jack! John siediti”
III
Jack allora oh allora farà vela,
destinazione Terranova;
tutte le belle signore di Placentia (4) là
amano quel marinaio
Andrà a riva con una lacrima
e comprerà ad una ragazza un vestito
quando i soldi sono andati
è sempre la stessa vecchia storia
“Alzati Jack! John siediti”
IV
Quando Jack diventa vecchio e stanco
troppo vecchio per andare in giro
si fermerà in qualche negozio di rum
finchè l’ottavo rintocco (5) lo chiamerà
Allora solleverà gli occhi al cielo
dicendo “Ragazzi, siamo in rotta verso casa”
quando i soldi sono andati
è sempre la stessa vecchia storia
“Alzati Jack! John siediti”

NOTE
1) vedi nota sopra
2) vedi nota sopra
3) nel senso che non offenderà l’oste con un rifiuto
4) la strofa è una variante locale di Terranova, Placentia è una piccola città canadese costituita dall’unione dei villaggi di Jerseyside, Townside, Freshwater, Dunville e Argentia..
5) sui vascelli il suono squillante di una campana regolava il tempo, ogni turno di guardia di 4 ore era segnalato da 8 rintocchi. (gli otto rintocchi di campana erano suonati alle 4, alle 8, alle 12, alle 16, alle 20 e a mezzanotte). Per calcolare il tempo si usava una clessidra. “Otto campane in marina indicava anche un cambiamento, un passaggio da una situazione ad un’altra, un “taglio” quindi tra il vecchio e il nuovo.
Al proposito ricordo che mio padre, maresciallo della Regia Marina, usava la frase “Sono suonate le otto campane” per significare che per un Marinaio era finita… finito il suo turno di guardia a bordo come pure la sua vita; sì era un modo di dire anzi un eufemismo per affermare che si poteva dargli l’estremo saluto!” (Marino Miccoli, tratto da qui)

LA VERSIONE INGLESE

Sempre nell’Ottocento circolava una versione completamente diversa in cui la povera Susan era affranta perché il bel William stava ancora lontano per mare, decide di seguirlo nei panni di marinaio, imbarcandosi su una nave nientemeno che del padre. La versione è ancora popolare a Terranova. Per quanto abbia cercato nel web al momento non ho trovato un video da ascoltare. Rimandando ad altri tempi un approfondimento..
It was in the town of Liverpool, all in the month of May,
I overheard a damsel, alone as she did stray,
She did appear like Venus or some sweet, lovely star,
As she walked toward the beach, lamenting for her jolly, roving Tar.

LA VERSIONE IRISH ROVER Jolly Roving Tar

Il testo è stato scritto da George Millar il fondatore degli Irish Rover (irlandesi trapiantati in Canada per chi non li conoscesse) e pur essendo una diversa canzone prende in prestito alcune frasi sia da “Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down” che da altre altrettanto famose sea song sui marinai.
The Irish Rover in Another Round 2005:il video è una simpatica sincronizzazione con varie danze prese da spezzoni di film fantasy e animazioni


I
Well here we are, we’re back again
Safe upon the shore
In Belfast town we’d like to stay
And go to sea no more
We’ll go into a public house
And drink till we’re content
For the lassies they will love us
Till our money is all spent
CORO
So pass the flowin’ bowl
Boys there’s whiskey in the jar
And we’ll drink to all the lassies
And the jolly roving tar
II
Oh Johnny did you miss me
When the nights were long and cold
Or did you find another love
In your arms to hold
Says he I thought of only you
While on the sea afar
So come up the stairs and cuddle
With your jolly roving tar
III
Well in each other’s arms they rolled
Till the break of day
When the sailor rose
and said farewell
I must be on me way
Ah don’t you leave me Johnny lad
I thought you’d marry my
Says he I can’t be married
For I’m married to the sea
IV
Well come all you bonnie lasses
And a warning take by me
And never trust an Irishman
An inch above your knee
He’ll tease you and he’ll squeeze you
And when he’s had his fun
He’ll leave you in the morning
With a daughter or a son
traduzione italiano  Cattia Salto
I
Eccoci qui, siamo di ritorno
al sicuro sulla terra, nella città di Belfast preferiremmo restare
e non andare più per mare.
Andremo nel pub
e berremo fino a essere pieni
perché le ragazze ci amano
fino a quando tutti i soldi spendiamo
CORO
Così passa la boccia piena
ragazzi c’è il whisky nel bicchiere
berremo a tutte le ragazze
e all’allegro marinaio vagabondo
II
“Oh Johnny mi sei mancato
quando le notti erano lunghe e fredde
o hai trovato un altro amore
da tenere tra le braccia?”
Dice lui “Pensavo solo a te
mentre ero lontano per mare
così sali le scale e stringiti
al tuo allegro marinaio vagabondo”
III
Tra le braccia uno dell’altra si cullarono
fino al sorgere dell’alba
quando il marinaio si alzò
e disse “addio devo andare via”
“Oh non mi lasciare mio giovane marinaio
credevo che mi sposassi”
dice lui “Non posso sposarmi
perché sono sposato con il mare”
IV
Venite tutte voi, belle ragazze
e prendete questo avviso da me
non concedete mai a un irlandese
un pollice sopra al ginocchio
vi stuzzicherà e stringerà
e quando avrà preso il suo piacere
vi lascerà al mattino
con una figlia o un figlio

continua
FONTI
http://www.shanty.org.uk/archive_songs/jolly-roving-tar.html
http://www.jsward.com/shanty/JollyRovinTar/lomax.html
http://www.wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/07/jolly.htm
http://www.goldenhindmusic.com/lyrics/GETUPJAC.html
http://www.wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/08/getup.htm
http://levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/catalog/levy:072.028
http://thejovialcrew.com/?page_id=338
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=96587
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=96582
http://adirondackmusic.org/subpages/69/9/6/lena-bourne-fish